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Development Update 5/12
Bugs I'm Tracking
- we still don't have enough information about the avatar display problem in the Philippines. If you can help out, please go to this thread and do the steps contained therein.

Market Shutdown
User ImageSo, pretty much anything dealing with items started going haywire on Sunday, and we ended up disabling gifting entirely as an emergency measure. So what went wrong?

Well, serial numbers on certain classes of items exceeded 2^31 (2,147,483,64 cool on Sunday morning. This isn't a problem in the database, mind you, but PHP treats anything over 2^31 as a negative number, which means that all this code that assumed that the IDs were positive suddenly blew up[1].

This is why, for example, you could sell old items back to the stores, but you couldn't sell new items; the serial number was fine for the old items, but the new items had a serial number that looked negative, so all the sanity checking code in the stores was complaining and issuing cryptic "2004" errors.

We were able to bring up Cash Shop and gift cards up pretty quickly, which led people to postulate that, once again, we were selling out to the soulless corporate overlords that inhabit the cave in the back of Gaia HQ. There's some truth to that -- certainly, issues dealing with real money take some precedence -- but the major reason we were able to fix the Cash Shop and gift card stuff so much faster is that it is just newer, better code; it's well architected and we could make just a couple of tweaks to get everything working. The old code, though... well, suffice it to say that it is "interesting."[2] It took DARKNRGY, Jakobo, and omgwhat a day or two to go through all of the old code and fix it up so it could deal with our new serial numbers.

Find Friends
When we ship a major feature (like the new friendslist / find friends feature), we have something we call the "30 days," which means this -- we continue to tweak and optimize and improve the feature while it's still new and out there. We are looking at adding Hotmail / AOL importing, and we'll be changing the name to "Friends & Ignored."

We are still definitely reading the feedback, though, so if you have something you want to say about the new feature, go to the feedback thread and let us know; WonderSloth is going over it every day.

Security
So, some security changes went out -- the image hiding/blocking seems to be fairly well received. We still have a bunch of things to do on our list, including the following:
- adding CAPTCHA to arenas
- adding CAPTCHA to PMs
- allowing image hiding/showing in profile comments
... and I think that's it. You'll see these changes over the next month.

Inventory Management
Thanks for all the feedback in journal comments about what we could do in inventory. We're taking a look at this to see if there are any quick fixes we can do. We'll be completely redoing the inventory, making it a lot easier and snazzier (and probably in Flash), but that will take a few months at least.

One note, though, since a number of people mentioned it: custom layering is a big deal. I'll go more into the complications that are avatars in a future journal, but the layering itself is complicated enough without each individual user having their own layering.

Other Stuff Rolling Out
- a feature that everyone has been asking for -- this week. Check your header. EDIT: arrrgh, this always happens when I say a date: it moves out! Check next week.
- See you at the prom!

Footnotes:
[1] Bonus question: does this mean that we have more than 2 billion items in the Gaian world? Actually, that's a hard question to answer -- some of the serial numbers are skipped or not used right now, but other item types are treated differently and are in different serial spaces; game items, for example, only count as one "type" of item, even though you might have many of them. We'll be able to analyze this easier after we push out item normalization.
[2] This is not "interesting" good, as in "that was an interesting book," but more like "interesting" not-good, as in you're trying to tell a friend how a date with his cousin went, and you say that "she was interesting," when in fact what you mean is that you met her for coffee but she tricked you into the parking lot and beat you up and took your wallet and then ran off with her boyfriend while pointing at you and laughing.[3]
[3] Yes, I have both interesting dates and recursive footnotes.






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Miches
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commentCommented on: Thu May 15, 2008 @ 08:16pm
I look forward to the inventory revamp. :]

I have no idea what feature people have been asking for in the header. @.@ I'm so curious now.


commentCommented on: Thu May 15, 2008 @ 08:17pm
Looking forward to the Inventory redo, been waiting for that for ages.

What about the header has everyone been asking for o.O Now I'm curious.



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commentCommented on: Thu May 15, 2008 @ 08:20pm
>__< Seriously? For the private messages? This seems highly unnecessary. You don't even get gold for it!

Heh... my journal comment captcha is Nudity Como.


commentCommented on: Thu May 15, 2008 @ 08:30pm
I really like the comparison image of old versus new code. Really paints a pretty picture of what you guys had to deal with. ;D

2,147,483,648. I love that number.

The CAPTCHA for this entry is "company upsets." How bizarre.



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commentCommented on: Thu May 15, 2008 @ 08:34pm
Thanks so much for the Sticky about the "I can't see my Avatar; I'm in the Phillippines" threads. I seem to be online at the same time as a bunch of users who have this issue, so now I'll be able to direct them directly to you without cluttering up your inbox. blaugh

Thanks for explaining about the market explosion, too; I could tell it was something pretty major, but I'm glad you guys were able to bring it back up relatively soon. Good job! mrgreen


commentCommented on: Thu May 15, 2008 @ 08:42pm
@Dios de Television: PMs don't give gold but they are susceptible to botting at the moment, and some members are complaining that they are getting spam / gore e-mails.



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commentCommented on: Thu May 15, 2008 @ 08:49pm
Captcha will be random, not every single time right? Please oh please say yes.

Cause even if you're not a bot it gets annoying having to enter the code every single time you do something, even if it's really simple. emo

EDIT: NO FLASH FOR INVENTORIES! NUUUUUUUUUUUH! FLASH = SLOWS DOWN STUFF.
Seriously why would flash even be necessary though. D; Aside from for arranging (Which by the way errors constantly because the flash script causes the browser to run slower *paraphrasing the error*) So that would intensively suck if you made all of inventories flash. D:

Speaking of suggestions I've got some information for you. If you guys could revisit a way to funel release 03 items I would entirely suggest it. I personally have finished most of my quests, but must people don't have my luck with these kind of things and the price jumps alone are outrageous, whether they effect you or not.
03 items inflate proportionally to each other, starting at the bottom. I will give you information starting from this year, to now.
Item: then - now, total increase since the beginning of the year
OMG: 4m - 9m, 5m inflation.
Devil Tail: 15m - 25m+, 10m inflation
Mini wings: 25m - 45m+, 20m inflation.
DJs: 65m - 120m+, 55m inflation.

I don't know about you but these are not the kind of prices normal users can keep up with. The lower items are more bearable but since they all inflate proportionally (i.e. 2 tails = 1minis = twice the inflation rate) the higher 03s are getting impossible to obtain, not to mention they are nearly impossible to find. (as to be expected after the site being up for 6 years now)
So yeah, please don't abandon the idea of small re-releases.


commentCommented on: Thu May 15, 2008 @ 08:59pm
Pan, I love reading your entries. They're entertaining and informative.

As far as the new feature rollout, are you referring to the sub-sub-menus under the navigation bar? Because those are hugely awesome and we thank you. One I'd like to see, though, is maybe a few under the My Gaia -> Account section. I use my Wishlist a great deal just to track the wanted items that I'm missing, and it's a small hassle to get to the Wishlist. Same for the Signature, a streamline for that often-adjusted setting would be nice.

Oh, and thanks for the Captcha on PMs. Spam/gore PMs have been cropping up from the 420channers lately. I block all of the accounts they're known to use, but sometimes a guy falls behind.

Isn't the arranger already in Flash? If it makes it faster (and allows me to keep equipping when I have over 1,300 items) then I'm all for it.



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commentCommented on: Thu May 15, 2008 @ 09:11pm
1) It might ease some of the frustration of having captcha if users could do something to prove they're not bots. Like how donating members have ads disappear each month, maybe Captcha can disappear as well for every month people donate.

2) OR: Can the PM captcha only be for new user accounts of under 1 year? It seems redundant to test users who have been here since 2003, even though bots sometimes take over the accounts they scam.


Anyway... I hope Captcha is only a temporary solution and that there will be better fixes to the bot problem in the future. I really dislike the thought that Gaia has been beaten down to a level where it had no choice but to use Captcha.


commentCommented on: Thu May 15, 2008 @ 09:31pm
Food pyramid > code pyramid. But it's still very swanky. =)

Inventories in Flash excites me, because of all the nifty things that can be done. The lag thing that Miles mentioned is a little worrisome, though; my inventory is pretty big, and even loading the Arranger can be tedious work. Still, I'll maintain my optimism!



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commentCommented on: Thu May 15, 2008 @ 09:46pm
Is that where that enormous gap in the header came from?

Because only thing header-wise I could think of is...

Well, it's probably not that. XD


commentCommented on: Thu May 15, 2008 @ 10:10pm
Nice picture. XD I think most people when complaining, tend to forget that the site is made up of a s**t ton of code, rather than just... summoned here by the evil magicians you have in the Gaia HQ basement. ;D

I love the foot notes They made my boring day more exciting.



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commentCommented on: Thu May 15, 2008 @ 10:14pm
As shiny as flash is, I could see it be a disaster for people with big amounts of loot and/or older computers. Flash is nice if used correctly otherwise flash = evil doom (sometimes with a BSOD included free).

Anywho, you said check your headers. Would it be a big enough change to really be noticed? I just saw the menus that had menus coming off them finally have arrows pointing it out.

I just though of a solution to the friends&enemies problem that I shoulda though of earlier. Why can we just call it what ever we want? Have like an option in our accounts to change what it says.

That brings me to another idea. The shortcuts thing, why can't we customize it? It's got links to stuff I don't use so much as other stuff I'd like to have a shortcut to (like this journal for example).

As for the market, I like the code sketch. Is the old code supposed to be a pile of dung?

Security: love the image blocker. Best option ever. As for Capturas, well they stop bots but they can also stop real people form filling out forms protected by them. It was fine in a few places but now it's becoming overkill. Why can't with have some "verify account" thing to prove you're a real person?

And lastly, footnotes = priceless.


commentCommented on: Thu May 15, 2008 @ 10:19pm
What is a 2004 error? Does it mean the year 2004?



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commentCommented on: Thu May 15, 2008 @ 10:56pm
Quote:
we'll be changing the name to "Friends & Ignored."

Booooo! scream No idea why that was bunching peoples' panties.


commentCommented on: Fri May 16, 2008 @ 12:41am
Some comments from the gallery (cashews!):
  • Market shutdown: I figured as much, having messed with PHP a bit myself. Though it is a scary thought to think of that many items.
  • 30 day: Is this "in-the-office" days, or "ohshi-gotta-fix-this-even-though-I-am-in-PJs" days?
  • I don't see the huge complaint over flashified inventories. If I can load inventory arranger with 1.3k+ items, so can you with a lesser inventory.
    And unless you are using Windows 98 Frances Hopper, you won't BSOD/kernel panic. IE and other browsers dont hook deep enough to cause a system crash; merely a browser crash.
  • Security: That's expected. It is a good thing that Gaia is ising reCAPTCHA to help digitize written words.
  • Other stuff: I know there is the sub-drops that have been added (thanks!), but what else could there be? ... -anticipates-
  • Side comments:
    There seems to be a recurring bug with journal pages breaking fonts and causing headers and other text to get all wonky. sweatdrop


reCAPTCHA: redhead blonde



Kiyoske Dante
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commentCommented on: Fri May 16, 2008 @ 01:30am
17th comment: w00t!
I hope image hiding/whitlisting/showing would be a site- wide feature (or at least - at any place where there are comments, including arena comments, mochi games comments, profile images, signatures...)


commentCommented on: Fri May 16, 2008 @ 01:45am
Header...?

ARE WE GETTING NPCS AND FRIENDS IN OUR HEADERS NOW?! That's the only thing I can think of...

Thanks for changing 'enemies' to 'ignored'...calling them 'enemies' is obviously giving them too much credit if all you want to do is not see their gore posts and such.

Happy to see that trading and gifting and whatnot is back up, though. I had a lot of junk piling up that I needed to get to the appropriate mules. lol



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commentCommented on: Fri May 16, 2008 @ 01:48am
There's been some talk in the GCD about this, but could the default of the image settings be "view all"? While this does post some risk, the lack of images from some servers, such as the people who post DragonCave dragons in their posts are hurt by this, because the evolution of those dragons are reliant on how many actual views of the image are recieved. Also, people who advertise in their signatures and poststyles are affected, because many are not seeing these images due to the lack of knowledge of the image controls (particularly new members after the announcement).
I am also very glad about the CAPTCHAs, although the sound version of the CAPTCHA are rather creepy...
I also look forward to the entry about item layering. I am one of the people who want to know more about it smile


commentCommented on: Fri May 16, 2008 @ 01:52am
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Aww,I wanted the 17th comment D; . Anyway,I'm very excited that the item normalization will be rolling out soon.All that hard work will be paying off.I don't think converting the customizer to flash will be that big of a deal considering that it lags when I'm in my organizer anyway,then again when the item normalization is put into effect it might resolve the problem some.At any rate,I normally don't get too many problems from flash,just my inventory loading slow,but like I said it's about the same in my organizer as well.And even if there are some problems,people will let the developers and programmers know.

Glad the Friendlist is getting renamed,the enemies thing would have caused serious problems.

I am so glad Captcha is being added to the arena and pms,the arena more than anything because I get sick of seeing full pages of bot comments.I honestly don't see the issuing of the security program as Gaia breaking,cause many other sites have the feature to counter spam and whatnot as well.

I noticed the extra sidebars in the header a few days ago,thanks :3.

Anyway,thanks for the update as usual and I enjoyed the footnotes xD.

Captcha is Mrs shipping,who's that O: ?



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commentCommented on: Fri May 16, 2008 @ 02:19am
Panagrammic, I had a question for you, and I can't seem to get a solid answer from anyone else.

For the past month, I've been unable to get into Customize Avatar, and change the appearance of my avatar. I've been in the Q&A, and I've asked several other users what might be the problem, and I get the same answer that I've got too many items in my inventory, and that it was because I had more than 1500.

This has been giving me a lot of confusion because of the fact that I've had over 1500 for quite some time now, I re-vamped my inventory and either sold or storaged nearly every Housing item and double that I have. But still no answer. When I brought this to people, I got some response regarding that "certain items have larger bit/byte storage than others, and that I'll have to keep moving them".

I suppose in retrospect I could accept that as the problem, my only concern is that because I've had so much for so long and only recently have ever added this problem, I considered it to be a bug with one of the updates to Gaia's systems. Do you have any thoughts on this or a possible resolution? It's killing me because I love my inventory and can't stand to think of moving tons of my items into storage, I love my whole inventory and I've worked so hard to get it where it is, I love having all the customizing combinations.

In advance, I apologize if this isn't the right place to ask this, but I figured it was the best place since you are one of the programmers I'm familiar with and you are in this area frequently to help out Gaia. So I thank you in advance as well for that.


commentCommented on: Fri May 16, 2008 @ 02:23am
With the BSOD I was simply pointing out a potential point. I've seen sites still getting a considerable of views from a 98 machine. And for the record I have a Mac so no worries. Flash ain't too bad. Just trying to watch out for others since I used to have to deal with that.



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commentCommented on: Fri May 16, 2008 @ 02:36am
It would be nice if the comments displayed CAPTCHAs as often as forum posts.

I don't think Flash is needed for inventories; maybe smart ajax paging... but PLEASE no full-(web)page reloads between (item)pages (i.e. marketplace selling)


commentCommented on: Fri May 16, 2008 @ 04:28am
I really appreciate how quickly you guys got things fixed this weekend. biggrin



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commentCommented on: Fri May 16, 2008 @ 04:42am
Flash for inventories would be painful overkill. Inventories need to load fast. Flash =! Fast. Never ever ever.

Oh ho ho! You store serial numbers as 32 bit ints, don't you? I'd be curious to know how you got around that. You're not using longs, are you? gonk I hope not.

I was a bit confused on this, too: why do you have to do Captchas on every comment? Wouldn't it make more sense to do it randomly? It would still foil botters, and it would be less "intrusive." Though, really, I've grown rather fond of the captchas. They're almost fun, the messages are sort of eerie and weird. But, theoretically. A captcha maybe, 33% of the time would make it nearly impossible to bot, no? As long as the captcha was impossible to crack using an OCR or something similar, but since you're not using the Yahoo captchas, I don't think there's a problem.

Your dating history is... unfortunate. I suggest you write a collection of short stories.

I love the picture. I think I need to pin that on my wall.


commentCommented on: Fri May 16, 2008 @ 05:19am
It's been said a lot, but the communication (Announcements) through the inventory issues was really appreciated. The next step: getting people to actually read them. xd

I am SOOOO glad CAPTCHAs are going in Arenas. That was needed for a very, very, very long time. Do you think it would ever be possible for our Profile comments to be "by Approval", like how you can do on MySpace?

I think people are being rather immature with the whole "I hate the Enemies thing!". As long as the Ignore feature works, who cares what it's called.

I think I know what the header feature is. 3nodding

"Dr Kretchmer" is my CAPTCHA? lol



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commentCommented on: Fri May 16, 2008 @ 05:48am
    User ImageI can't wait for new inventories.
    It's the one thing that's remained the same since I've been on Gaia.
    And it needs a change.

    Also, you guys definitely need to work on trades.
    Making it possible to send more than 12 items per trade.
    Some people, say in the exchange, trade hundreds of items, and it takes a long time to do so. I remember transferring over 700 items over to a mule account, and it took almost 3 hours for me. It would be a lot easier if we could send more than 12 per trade.

    Keep up the good work, and the journal postings~


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Almost forgot,what Miles to Go mentioned earlier about the the idea of re-releasing older MCs,I heard that discussion before and I seriously think it would be a good idea.It would probably help counter alot of the market manipulation going and also make older items more accessible for those who don't have them or would be near impossible to obtain now.

Also,is there a possibility Fishing will be updated? That has been needing work since it first came out,plus something needs to be done about the gold farming bots on there.I just started fishing again and it ticks me off that I or anyone else do not have a chance of getting a trophy because someone has their legion of robots fishing 24/7 to sell for gold.



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commentCommented on: Fri May 16, 2008 @ 07:07am
Part 2:
> I don't know if I'd like inventories to use Flash. Flash tends to work funny for a lot of people, myself included. I have to change my browser settings to view Flash items because of the type of computer I have.

> I like your drawing.

> I'll 3rd Miles to Go's comment. Hopefully 03 Mcs will be obtainable through upcoming Quests or the Battle System. It's becoming more and more difficult to quest for items -- even some of the more recent ones -- because of the inflation. I won't even attempt a Quest for any 03's because I know I'd be saving up for 10 years and still not have enough gold.

> An idea: the next time Marketplace features are being updated, consider adding this section: New Items. Whenever a new Quest comes out, or a new Shop update comes out, it would be nice to click into the MP and be able to look up what the newest items are. Right now I end up going to Tektek to view that. I think a "New Items" section would be far, far more useful than something like the 'You Might Like' or 'Luxury Items' section.


commentCommented on: Fri May 16, 2008 @ 07:28am
I think it would be great if we could compare market prices like we do on tektek, in the marketplace. I tend to have to go to tektek, but for new items it doesn't work becuase tektek is behind Gaia, and generally takes a few hrs to a day to update.


heh, CAPTCHA designs antiwar

wouldn't that be nice?



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commentCommented on: Fri May 16, 2008 @ 03:44pm
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ღWell as for the inventory problems.
It seems I'm still having them.

I am unable to sell back commons to the store via the invo organizer.
I am, however, able to sell items back via the stores.
Also, I'm able to sell back game items via the organizer.

Don't know what's going on.
Just thought I'd give you a heads up.
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commentCommented on: Fri May 16, 2008 @ 03:52pm
I am looking forward to the revamp of the inventories. I have currently shoved everything I am not using into storage so that I won't have to wait for it to load.

Another idea though off topic--Updates for guilds? Are they coming anytime soon? If they are sorry for asking, if not, when?



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commentCommented on: Sat May 17, 2008 @ 07:49am
My constructive criticism is that you are fabulous and we love you and all your hard work. =3

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Will you dance with me at the prom? redface


commentCommented on: Sun May 18, 2008 @ 12:29am
Please don't make it a flash inventory. My college campus doesn't let me access the Flash areas.



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commentCommented on: Sun May 18, 2008 @ 01:47am
Quote:
redoing the inventory, making it a lot easier and snazzier (and probably in Flash), but that will take a few months at least.
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Hey there Pana-ness, I was wondering if we can have different views of this first. I am not sure that other members with low speed internet's, or Dial Up can handle the new flash inventory's.

I have a friend who uses Dial-Up and is already on the prowl, on wanting to break someones leg (It is a joke, but she is just angry) because the prom events, well she cannot participate. So I am on the verge of collecting items for her. ^_^;

Back to what I think, personally we should have two views first!! We will be the testers!! Just make sure we have both views if it is possible, because I know for a fact some people can't do this new feature you speak of. crying

Please consider?

I am not so...informed on how developers do things, but I am quite sure their are options!! heart

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commentCommented on: Sun May 18, 2008 @ 07:04pm
Hey Panagrammic, I don`t know were should I ask for it, so, sorry if I`m bothering you...

The thing is, one friend of mine uses Gaia from her PSP and we used to chat via PMs. But the thing is that yesterday she coldn`t send any PMs from her PSP, she doesn`t know why, and she asked me if I could report that to some of you Gaia staff people. So, there are some questions: Could I report it in her place? Where should I do it? To whom? Is there anything you guys could do about it?

Sorry once again to use your space for that, and thanks, anyway.



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commentCommented on: Sun May 18, 2008 @ 10:30pm
I don't know whose fault this is but for some reason my browser (Safari 3.1 Mac) quits itself randomly when I'm browsing around on Gaia.

Just something I though I should alert you of.


Pastor Assurance lol. Captchas are annoying but funny.

EDIT: Seems to have stopped now. Disregard.


commentCommented on: Tue May 20, 2008 @ 12:44pm
Well maby you should first FIX all the issues people are haveing with your current flash codeing before you go and write more



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commentCommented on: Wed May 21, 2008 @ 12:51am
Really looking forward to any improvements that can be made to the inventory; I have a lot of trouble getting pages to load as a result I have to store several hundred items in storage or on mules just to access the dress-up page.

Will a lot of the issues surrounding dressing up and inventory capacity be addressed by the improvements?

Edit: Miles to Go mentioned rereleasing.

I'm very passionate that this is a good idea. I do feel, however, that it's best to make it a pay feature. Old users that had to pay to earn items would feel totally shafted if other people were getting them for free. I would like to think that Gaia owns interlectual propery over their items and that they would be willing to one day release the stupidly over priced old items again.

Perhaps at an increased fee, perhaps with a different name (almost in the style of Evolving Item "Gens" wink or something like that.

But I have to totally agree that rereleasing in some form is necessary. I cannot afford to shell out thousands of dollars on MC's, EI's and what not to afford one item that cost a user 2.50 just because I wasn't here...

I think it's a little unfair... I know the users had the advantage; they found the site before me, the nature of MC's is their limited nature etc etc.

But Gaia is changing, I'd like to think that they want to make the experience as good as possible; it's such a petty thing but '03 collectibles would make me happy. Some kind of rerelease would be a dream to me.

I'm sure a lot of users will be unhappy with my sentiments and that's fine, I know not everyone can be pleased either way but I'm hopeful that Gaia will look in to improving the current climate of item cost on Gaia... heart


commentCommented on: Wed May 21, 2008 @ 03:11am
I'd kill to have the G9 laptop be re-released (not literally but you get the point.)

Hell, if the price is right I might (big might though) consider paying actual cash to get it.



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