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Vansin's Grimiore
You Are What You Are: The Big V's review (10)
Here's to ten, and many more!

For this installment of the Review, the staff has requested for me to take a different approach then my normal style, which is generally unbased in fact or logic, and is simply my own personal rants.

For this installment, I'll attempt (And I use that word leniently) to express my views with a semblance of reason and logic behind them.

Of course, as a man who worships both and knows neither, that may be harder then it seems.

Let's talk on existence and stuff:

I recently held a debate with one of my colleagues about our different views on the relationship of good and evil, their power in the world, and so on. In the end we disagreed and went on our way, but I think we both brought up excellent points.

He/She/It said (And I summarize): Good is right, good is ultimate. Goodness in its own essence is the correct path of life, and it is what humans should lean towards. No matter how or why, and person turned from evil to good, no matter whether they are willing or not, has been done justice. Any person who, say, beats a person repetitively and then uses that dominating mental position to force the recipient to turn from evil to good is a good person, with that logical process. As long as the end result is goodness, there is no problem, because the purpose of goodness is to create more goodness, so that one day the world can be enveloped by total and complete goodness.

I do so hope I got that right.

I/Me/It said: Good and evil are opposing viewpoints in life. Evil begets evil and good begets good. However far more important then either of those concepts is the concept free will. Why do we punish evil? Because of their methods. In the end we all crave similar things, power, money, happiness, and so on. Evil people, however, murder and cheat and lie and rape and steal and blackmail. They get what we good folk get in half the time by sacrificing their morals and purities for the sin of instant gratification, or the pleasure of possessing something they shouldn't. In the end Good and Evil will always fight, and Evil is wrong, there is no doubt about that in my mind.

HOWEVER.

We good people can always look down on the evil people from our high seats of purity. It's our right as people who follow the rules. When we lower ourselves to committing the same atrocities they do simply to turn them to our side we literally become evil ourselves. Just like life, the journey is far more important then the destination. Perhaps you believe in a God, and believe good is established by holy decree, would not your God rather someone chose the path of holiness willingly, rather then be beaten and forced into the moral alignment? Violence and anger never make goodness, they only encourage it further on. If someone is raped and taken advantage of then misguided until they turned good, what precedent does that set? Does that person now do good for others? No! That person believes that rape is an acceptable was to convert people, and has just been convinced that they are now doing good. Does the result change? They are likely to continue doing evil in their perverted, misguided version of purity and only hurt more people.

When we look at humans, we see the majority of people repeat the social ideals of their upbringers. It is likely that you sometimes agree with your parents/guardians about things that concern morality and ethics. Oftentimes such people are the dominating sources of opinion on such subjects, which are not normally discussed with peers. This explains why victims of abuse often end up abusers themselves. Actions such as abuse pervert the mind into believing the said action is right and the cycle only continues. This would be no diffrent in a situation where someone is physically or mentally tortures into becoming something, even if they are aware of it. Can you imagine loving a concept or an idea that you previously hated because someone brainwashed you into it? If you looked back at your own life from a diffrent point of view, wouldn't you hate it? You would be doing good, which is respectable, but it would be wrong somehow, tainted by lies and trickery.

Hearing these arguments some might think I am defending evildoers from this sort of experience.

And I am.

Be you evil or good, you are the same as me. You have a body, a mind, and a soul. Our societies give us the opportunity to do what we wish in life, and those who choose evil are entitled by the fact that they can conceptualize and act on the idea of evil. If you can do it, you have the right to do it. However you must also realize that there might be consequences for such actions, such as prison or death. Only the foolishly optimistic try to fight against the fact that evil is an unstoppable force, and that it is OK to stop evil with evil. Fighting fire with fire does not work, water cannot dry a puddle. To use evil methods to convert evil people, people who are wrong in their ideals and beliefs, is an evil act, no matter the consequence. The worst crime in existence is depriving someone of the right to choose, and people who do this to others, forcing them to follow their selfish ideals should be punished severely.

If you wish to be evil, so be it. I will fight you, and I will destroy you. But I swear on my life you will not be deprived of the ability to be evil. I would rather you stick to a conviction you believe in and die for it then to have that belief ripped from your mind by impure measures, even if that belief is an evil one.

That is your right as a human, just as it is my right to disagree with you and punish you for it.

Hold fast to what you believe...

-Vansin


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  • User Comments: [2]
    Suicidal Kal
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    Fri Mar 09, 2007 @ 02:07am


    You raise many valid points indeed. As much as I so very much want to comment on the topic, I must refrain. Involving myself in such a debate as this would bring me to put forth a question of my own moral standing and that I cannot do. So I will leave it that you make reasonable point, supported by fact and logic, that you are both right and wrong, and I support your opinion. Nothing more then that.

    In any case, your "rant" is very persuasive. I applaud you on breaking from your tradition Reviews.


    Machiavellian Princess
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    Mon Mar 12, 2007 @ 10:24pm


    I'd have to agree with you fully on most of what you said. I don't believe in the whole "The end justifies the means". And I think you expressed that very well.


    Like I said, you're gonna be famous in literature one day. I swear it, Rocco.


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